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- Archive-name: running-faq/part1
- Last-modified: 15 November 1994
- Posting-Frequency: Monthly
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-
- Answers to REC.RUNNING FAQ and Interesting Information
-
- This posting contains answers to frequently asked questions posted to
- rec.running plus interesting & useful information for runners. If known,
- author's name/email address are given. Send me (Ozzie Gontang) any
- corrections,updates, suggestions, or proper info of sources or holder's of
- copyright. Yonson Serrano <yonson@jazz.Corp.Sun.Com> is acknowledged for
- his fine job as the previous maintainer of the rec.running FAQ.
-
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- Avoiding Dogs
- Books and Magazines
- Clothes (Winter/Summer)
- Clothing Materials
- General Information
- Running Mailing Lists
- Terminology (e.g. overpronation, oversupination) Calorie/energy count
- Calories burned by running
- Fat burning primer Part 2 of 6
- Conversion chart
- Fluid replacement
- Noakes's Ten Laws of Running Injuries
- Second Wind
- Soda Pop
- Computer software
- Hashing
- Interval training
- Legs
- Sore Knees
- Leg Massage
- Mail Order Addresses Part 3 of 6
- * Marathon
- Increasing your mileage
- Major Marathons (e.g. Boston, LA, New York) Miscellaneous Medical /
- Injuries Part 4 of 6
- Achilles tendinitis (incomplete)
- Shin splints
- Side stitches
- Lactic Acid
- Loose bowels
- Diabetes & running
- Nutrition and Food
- Nutrition primer Part 5 of 6
- Powerbars
- Orienteering
- Predicting times
- Running Clubs & Organizations
- Shoe Review (Under Construction) Part 6 of 6 Stretching
- Sweat
- Weather (cold, hot, wind, rain, altitude)
-
- Specific Questions Answered:
- (1) Is it better to run in the morning or evening? (2) Should I run when I
- have a cold/fever? (3) How often should I run? (4) Which of the 8 lanes on
- a US track is actually the '1/4 mile' one?
- (5) I have started running after having my baby and I am curious to know if
- any one has some stomach exercises?
-
- NEW: There is a rec.running PR list maintained by Brian Rush
- (rush@bonnie.astro.ucla.edu). The list will be posted to rec.running once a
- month. It is available via the World Wide Web at
- URL="http://polar.pica.army.mil/running/running.html" also via anonymous
- ftp at eggneb.astro.ucla.edu:/pub/rush/pr.lst
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- What groups are around? What's a FAQ? Who am I? Why am I here?
-
- Read news.announce.newusers and news.answers for a few weeks. Always make
- sure to read a newsgroup for some time before you post to it. You'll be
- amazed how often the same question can be asked in the same newsgroup.
- After a month you'll have a much better sense of what the readers want to
- see.
-
- Avoiding Dogs (Arnie Berger arnie@hp-lsd.COL.HP.COM) [Ed. note: Originally
- posted to rec.bicycles - but it applies here as well]
-
- There are varying degrees of defense against dogs.
-
- 1- Shout "NO!" as loud and authoritatively as you can. That works more than
- half the time against most dogs that consider chasing you just good sport.
-
- 2- Get away from their territory as fast as you can.
-
- 3- A water bottle squirt sometimes startles them.
-
- If they're waiting for you in the road and all you can see are teeth then
- you in a heap o' trouble. In those situations, I've turned around, slowly,
- not staring at the dog, and rode away.
-
- "Halt" works pretty well, and I've used it at times. It's range is about 8 feet.
-
- I bought a "DAZER", from Heathkit. Its a small ultrasonic sound generator
- that you point at the dog. My wife and I were tandeming on a back road and
- used it on a mildly aggressive German Shephard. It seemed to cause the dog
- to back off.
-
- By far, without a doubt, hands down winner, is a squirt bottle full of
- reagent grade ammonia, fresh out of the jug. The kind that fumes when you
- remove the cap. When I lived in Illinois I had a big, mean dog that put its
- cross-hairs on my leg whenever I went by. After talking to the owner
- (redneck), I bought a handlebar mount for a water bottle and loaded it with
- a lab squirt bottle of the above mentioned fluid. Just as the dog came
- alongside, I squirted him on his nose, eyes and mouth. The dog stopped dead
- in his tracks and started to roll around in the street. Although I
- continued to see that dog on my way to and from work, he never bothered me
- again.
-
- Finally, you can usually intimidate the most aggressive dog if there are
- more than one of you. Stopping, *and moving towards it will often cause it
- to back off*. ( But not always ). My bottom line is to always *run* routes
- that I'm not familiar with, with someone else.
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- Books and Magazines (Phil Cannon pcannon@spotlight.Corp.Sun.COM)
-
- Books
- =====
-
- 1) The Lore of Running - Tim Noakes
- 2) The Complete Book of Running - Fixx
- 3) The Runner's Handbook - Bloom
- 4) Long Distance Runner's Guide to Training and Racing - Sperks/Bjorklund
- 5) The Runner's Handbook - Glover & Shepard 6) Beyond Jogging - Spino 7)
- Jogging, Aerobics and Diet - Royald
- 8) The New Aerobics - Cooper
-
- Magazines
- =========
-
- Track and Field News (monthly $31 US per year) 2370 El Camino Real, suite 606
- Mountain View CA 94040
- 415-948-8188
- Fax: 1-415-948-9445
- 1-800-GET-TRAK (1-800-438-8725)
-
- The self-proclaimed "Bible of the Sport", T&FN is the source for major meet
- results in track & field, road racing, cross-country, and race walking from
- the high school to international levels. Emphasis is on U.S. athletes.
- though significant international coverage is provided. Compiles annual
- post-seasonal rankings of the top 10 performers in the world and U.S. in
- every major event, men and women. Publishes list of top 50 performances in
- each event for the year. Also sponsors TAFNUT tours for major championships
- and the Euro Circuit/GP meets. Lots of stats, good interviews.
-
- Track Technique (quarterly; $15 in US, $16 outside) same contact info as
- Track & Field News.
-
- The official TAC quarterly, each issue has important articles on technique,
- training, and other practical information on all events, at all levels.
- Intended for coaches.
-
- California Track News ($18/yr)
- 4957 East Heaton
- Fresno, CA 93727
-
- California's only all track and cross-county publication. Lots of attention
- to prep school action.
-
- Running Research News (bi-monthly $18 US per year) Post Office Box 27041
- Lansing MI 48909
- 1-800-333-FEET
- $17/year $31/2 years
- 46 back issues, $112
- (An additional $6 for overseas airmail)
-
- Running Times (monthly $17.70 US per year) P.O. Box 511
- Mount Morris, IL 61054-7691
- 1-800-877-5402
-
- Runner's World (monthly $17.97 US per year) P.O. Box 7574
- Red Oak, IA 51591-2574
- 1-800-666-2828
-
- Masters Track & Field News (5 issues/yr; $10.50) P.O. Box 16597
- North Hollywood, CA 91615
-
- Results, rankings, age-records, schedules, stories of age 40+ athletes
- worldwide. "Satisfaction guaranteed"
-
- "The Schedule" - is a monthly magazine in California that has an extensive
- lits of races and other information. Northern CA: 80 Mitchell Blvd, San
- Rafael CA 94903-2038 (415) 472-7223; 472-7233 FAX Southern CA: 549 Highland
- Dr, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405-1116 (805) 541-2833
-
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- Clothes (Winter/Summer) (Mike Gilson GILSON@ALF.CS.HH.AB.COM)
-
- Disclaimer
- ----------
- Preference on the amount of clothing required for winter running varies
- widely between individuals. There are a couple of runners that I see that
- wear shorts, long sleeved T-shirt and gloves at 30F! So expect to
- experiment with how much clothing at various temp's.
-
- Second: I don't have any interest in the type of clothes you buy/wear; I
- neither make nor lose money by your choices. What I have to say here is
- *my* opinion only.
-
- Rules for Winter Running
- ------------------------
- The first rule is to dress in layers. Outer layers can be added/shed easily.
-
- The second rule is to stay dry. When your clothes get wet, they get very
- heavy - heavy enough to degrade performance - and you get cold.
-
- The final rule is to hydrate. You may not sweat as much, but you still need
- to take in fluids.
-
- Clothing Layers
- ---------------
- Inner layer. The layer closest to the skin should be a tight, lightweight
- fabric that wicks water away from the skin. Shirts should be long-sleeved,
- skin-tight (without chafing), and may be turtle-necked (my preference).
- There are a variety of fabrics that are effective in wicking water; I have
- had a lot of success with polypro, but it is not machine washable. These
- are readily available at running specialty shops and mail order. For pants,
- lycra running tights work very well.
-
- Outer layer. The next layer should be a looser, mediumweight fabric that
- wicks water. A zipper at the neck is convenient for temperature control. I
- prefer a shirt that is slightly longer than waist-length so that I have the
- option of tucking it into the pants. I've had more success in finding these
- in cycling stores than anywhere else. Two layers of lycra tights work if
- it's really cold.
-
- Shell. A water-proof or water resistant shell that is breathable is useful
- in the coldest conditions. These are usually sold as suits, but tops are
- available separately at a higher cost (relatively speaking). Gore-tex is
- considered by many to be the best fabric, but there are cheaper
- alternatives. You can get these suits made to your measurements or buy them
- off the rack. I have a Burley jacket, which I purchased at a cycling shop.
- It's chief advantage over the running suits is the venting and extra
- zippers for temperature control. There are zippers under each arm, starting
- at mid chest going up to the armpit and travelling down the arm to about
- mid forearm.
-
- Tights. Tights have been mentioned above as inner/outer layers. Many people
- run in sweats, but sweats have two disadvantages: they're heavy and they
- get heavier when wet. Lycra is lightweight and warm, but costs more and
- shows off body (im)perfections more than sweats.
-
- Gloves. Any cotton glove works.
-
- Hat. A lot of heat is lost through the scalp, so a hat is a must for most
- people. Cotton hats get too heavy with sweat. Balaclavas are more versatile
- than hats, and allow you to cover you neck/face if requires. Both hats and
- balaclavas are available in wicking fabrics.
-
- Socks. A wicking sock will seem less heavy and your feet will be drier than
- a conventional sock. Coolmax socks are my preference, worn in a single
- layer. You can also find other fabrics, such as capilene or polypro socks,
- which are considerably more expensive.
-
- Running shoes. Runner's World (anyone know which issue?) had some tips from
- Alaskan runners on how to put (short) screws into the sole of the shoe for
- better traction on the ice. I haven't tried it, but you obviously have to
- be careful not to puncture the midsole, air/gel chambers, etc.
-
- Dressing for Winter Running
- ---------------------------
-
- Temp range Number of layers
- (degrees F) Inner Outer Shell Tights Gloves Hat Socks
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 50-55 1 0 0 1 1 0 0
- 40-45 1 1 0 1 1 0 1
- 30-35 1 1 0 1-2 1 1 1
- 20-25 1 1 1 2 1 1 1
- 0-15 1 1 1+pants 1 1 1 1
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- Clothing materials (Jim Carson carson@mu.rice.edu) [Ed note: From a summary
- Jim posted]
-
- Polarlite
- Fluffy, fleecy stuff also called Polarplus and Synchilla. Comfortable.
- Incredibly warm, especially under something that breaks the wind. Doesn't
- wick moisture out very well. Breathes very well.
-
- Supplex (nylon)
- Comfortable. It is breathable and water repellent (but NOT water proof).
- Seems to absorb a small amount of water if it is really getting drenched
-
- Merino (wool)
- From a "breed of fine-wooled white sheep originating in Spain and producing
- a heavy fleece of exceptional quality." I guess you could treat this as
- normal 100% wool.
-
- Thermax
- An improvement on Polypro. The big advantage is heat resistance so you can
- put it in the dryer. Balance that against the extra cost.
-
- CoolMax
- This stuff seems more like a plastic bag than the revolutionary wicking
- material it is advertised as.
-
- Dacron
- Trademark name for Dupont polyester. Woven fabric made from dacron is
- similar to nylon ripstop or taffeta, but not as stretchy. Many of the
- better clothing insulations are made from dacron. They are usually refered
- to by more specific trademark names, like quallofil, hollofil, polarguard,
- and dacron-88.
-
- Lycra
- Used for its stretch, mostly a warm weather (>65 degrees) thing.
-
- GoreTex
- A teflon based membrane with microscopic holes. Gortex's claim to fame is
- that it will let water vapor (from perspiration) through, but not liquid
- water (rain). It blocks wind fairly well too. The membrane is delicate, so
- it always comes laminated between 2 layers of other material. It does not
- breathe enough. There are less expensive alternatives.
-
- Polypropylene
- Does not wick very well. Can be uncomfortable. Troublesome to care for
- (e.g. can pill badly) Will keep you fairly warm if soaked. Not very wind
- resistant. Melts in the dryer.
-
- Capilene
- Wicks moisture away. Very comfortable. Comes in different weights for
- more/less warmth. [lots of favorable things about it... only really
- unfavorable thing is the co$t]
-
- 60/40 cloth -
- This is a cloth with nylon threads running one direction, cotton in the
- other. It was the standard wind parka material before Goretex came along,
- and is considerably less expensive. Good wind resistance, fairly
- breathable. Somewhat water resistant, especially if you spray it with
- Scotchguard, but won't hold up to a heavy rain.
-
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- General Information
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Running Mailing Lists
- T & F Mailing List
-
- For details send email to: (Derrick Peterman)dwp@mps.ohio-state.edu
-
- The Track and Field Mailing List is a world wide network of athletes,
- coaches, sports scientists, officials, and track and field enthusiasts.
- Many national class athletes from several nations subscribe. The list
- provides rapid dissemination of results, discussion of track and field
- topics, and a source for inquiry about track and field events.
-
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- Terminology
-
- Pronation/Supination (Thomas Page page@ficus.cs.ucla.edu)
-
- "Over" pronation describes a minor misalignment of the leg's forward swing
- that causes the footstrike to be skewed to the inside of the heel. (Jim
- Horalek)
-
- "Over" supination is the reverse - impact is shifted toward the outside of
- the heel. (Jim Horalek)
-
- Pronation and supination describe natural and normal motions of the foot
- during the walking or running stride. In a normal stride, the outside
- portion of the heal strikes the ground first. The foot pronates to absorbe
- shock. That is, it rolls inward. At the end of the stride, the foot
- re-supinates -- rolls outward-- on push-off.
-
- What the previous writer (Jim Horalek horalek@alliant.com) is defining is
- `over pronation', and `over supination'. These are excesses of the normal
- motions. Note that over pronation is fairly common and many shoes are
- designed to counteract this. Over supination is very rare. Most people who
- think they over supinate probably just under pronate. Some people who think
- they over pronate may in fact pronate a normal amount, but fail to
- re-supinate sufficiently at the end of the stride.
-
-
- FARTLEK: A training method, where the runner runs over trails and rough
- terrain mixing fast and slow speed work.
-
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- Calorie/Energy Count (Kenrick J. Mock mock@iris.ucdavis.edu)
-
- Here is a little table adapted from "Beyond Diet...Exercise Your Way to
- Fitness and Heart Health" by Lenore R. Zohman, M.D.
-
-
- Energy Range = Approx. Calories Per Hour
-
- Energy Range Activity Conditioning Benefits ------------ ----------
- --------------------- 72-84 Sitting, Conversing None
-
- 120-150 Strolling, 1 mph Not strenuous enough to produce
- Walking, 2 mph endurance unless your exercise capacity is very low
-
- 150-240 Golf, power cart Not sufficiently taxing or
- continuous to promote
- endurance.
-
- 240-300 Cleaning windows, Adequate for conditioning if
- Mopping floor, carried out continuously for vacuuming 20-30 minutes
-
- Bowling Too intermittent for endurance
-
- Walking, 3mph Adequate dynamic exercise if Cycling, 6mph your capacity is low
-
- Golf, pulling cart Useful if you walk briskly,
- but if cart is heavy
- isometrics may be involved.
-
- 300-360 Scrubbing floors Adequate if carried out in at
- least 2 minute stints
-
- Walking, 3.5 mph Usually good dynamic aerobic
- Cycling, 8 mph exercise
-
- Ping Pong Vigorous continuous play can
- Badminton have endurance benefits. May
- Volleyball aid skill.
-
- Tennis, doubles Not beneficial unless there is continuous play for at least 2
- minutes at a time. Aids
- skill.
-
- 360-420 Walking, 4mph Dynamic, aerobic, beneficial. Cycling, 10mph Skating
- should be continuous. Skating
-
- 420-480 Walking, 5mph Dynamic, aerobic, beneficial. Cycling, 11mph
-
- Tennis, singles Benefit if played 30 minutes or more with an attempt to
- keep moving
-
- Water Skiing Total isometrics
-
- 480-600 Jogging, 5 mph Dynamic, aerobic, endurance Cycling, 12mph building
- exercise.
-
- Downhill skiing Runs are usually too short to promote endurance
- significantly.
-
- Paddleball Not sufficiently continuous
- for aerobic benefits.
-
- 600-660 Running, 5.5 mph Excellent conditioner.
- Cycling, 13 mph
-
- Above 660 Running, 6 or more mph Excellent conditioner
-
- Handball, Squash Conditioning benefit if played
- 30 minutes or more.
-
- Swimming (wide Good conditioning exercise caloric range)
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- Calories burned by running (Rob Lingelbach rob@xyzoom.info.com)
-
- Here is a table I clipped from Runner's World last year; the source listed
- is "Exercise & Physiology" (Lea & Febiger, 1986). At 70% of max.
-
- Pace (minutes per mile)
- 12:00 10:43 9:41 8:46 8:02 7:26 6:54 6:26 6:02 Weight (lbs) Calories burned
- per hour running
- 100 400 450 500 550 600 650 700 750 800
- 119 432 486 540 594 648 702 756 810 864
- 128 464 522 580 638 696 754 812 870 928
- 137 496 558 620 682 744 806 868 930 992
- 146 528 594 660 726 792 858 924 990 1056
- 154 560 630 700 770 840 910 980 1050 1120
- 163 592 666 740 814 888 962 1036 1110 1184
- 172 624 702 780 858 936 1014 1092 1170 1248
- 181 656 738 820 902 984 1066 1148 1230 1312
- 190 688 774 860 946 1032 1118 1204 1290 1376
- 199 720 810 900 990 1080 1170 1260 1350 1440
- 207 752 846 940 1034 1128 1222 1316 1410 1504
- 216 784 882 980 1078 1176 1274 1372 1470 1568
- 225 816 918 1020 1122 1224 1326 1428 1530 1632
- 234 848 954 1060 1166 1272 1378 1484 1590 1696
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- Fat burning primer (Ramesh K. Sitaraman rks@phoenix.princeton.edu) (Thomas
- Page page@ficus.cs.ucla.edu)
-
- There seems to be a lot of debate and a few misconceptions about Fat
- burning, Stamina etc. Here are a few basics. They are based on standard
- scientific sources.
-
- 1. There are 3 sources of energy : Muscle glycogen, Liver Glycogen, Fat
- (triglycerides). There is also blood glycogen, which is what the brain
- runss off.
-
- 2. During excercise the glucose and fatty acid in the blood is utilised.
- Fatty acid in blood stream is utilised in preference to glucose for various
- reasons. (There are organs like the brain that can use only one energy
- source : glucose).
-
- Tom: Muscle glycogen is used before blood or liver glycogen. When you carbo
- load before a race, you are packing in the muscle glycogen. You only have a
- few minutes supply of blood glycogen once you start using that for running.
-
-
- 3. Then why can't we run on fat FOREVER ??? Because the fatty acid
- concentration in blood can never be much. In fact, it seldom exceeds (in
- Molars) the concentration of Glucose !!! Why this "transportation problem"
- for fats ?? There ain't much Albumin to transport the fat and fat in excess
- in blood stream will deposit on veins constrict and more directly cause
- blood clots and kill you !!!
-
- Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.
- Ozzie Gontang <downtech@cerfnet.com>
- Downing & Associates
- 11300 Sorrento Valley Rd. Ste 103
- San Diego, CA 92121
- ph.619-458-1101 fax 619-452-3708
-
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- Mail Order Addresses
-
- The addresse/phone of some popular running mail order outfits (Directory
- assistance at 1-800-555-1212 for mail order outfits not listed):
-
- Road Runner Sports
- 6150 Nancy Ridge Road
- San Diego, CA 92121
- 1-800-551-5558 (Orders)
- 1-800-662-8896 (Customer Service)
- 1-619-455-6470 (Int'l & Business Fax)
-
- California Best
- 970 Broadway
- Chula Vista, CA 91911-1798
- 1-800-225-2378
-
- Tel-a-Runner
- 80 Speedwell Ave
- Morristown, NJ 07970
- 1-800-835-2786
-
- Hoy's Sports
- 1632 Haight St
- San Francisco, 94117
- 1-800-873-4329
-
- Holabird Sports
- 9008 Yellow Brick Rd
- Baltimore, Md 21237
- 1-410-687-6400
- 1-410-687-7311 (24 Hr. Fax)
-
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- Marathon
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- Increasing your mileage (Jack Berkery berkery@emmax5crd.ge.com)
-
- There are many good, professional, books and articles on how to train for
- whatever distance you choose. More for the marathon than others I think. I
- would suggest that you get one or two and mull them over. The following
- recommendations are more or less a distillation of having read and digested
- most of these as well as more than a decade of experience.
-
- Let's suppose you are beginning with a base load of about 20 miles per week
- over a long period. First I DO NOT recommend that anyone who has been
- running for less than 3 years should run a marathon. Running is a long-term
- game and it takes time for your body to become adjusted physically to the
- demands, not only of the marathon itself, but also of the heavy training
- mileage required to build up to it.
-
- Next, you should always keep in mind that your build-up should not exceed
- 10% per week. 10% doesn't sound like much but it's actually a big
- adjustment for your system to make. Not only muscles, but bones and
- connective tissues must be strengthened to take the increased load and
- running marathon mileage is a lot of pounding. Remember 10%. That is not to
- say that if you ran 20 miles last week, you cannot go more than 22 next
- week, but over a period of 3-4 weeks the rate of increase should not exceed
- the 10% slope. After 4 weeks then, you should be doing just under 30 miles,
- but not more. If you go from 20 to 24 in the first week thereby exceeding
- the 10% rate, then doing 24 again the second week will bring you back on
- track. You can continue to build up mileage for about 6 weeks when you'll
- reach 35 miles. Then you MUST BACK OFF for a week or so. Drop back by about
- 25-30% for one week. Take two or three days off in a row. Get some rest to
- gain strength before beginning the climb again.
-
- How much mileage is enough for a marathon? I have known people to run
- marathons on 25 or 35 miles per week. Don't try it. How they got away with
- it is not important. It is only important to know that it simply ain't
- smart. You can get away with 40-45 per week if you are doing a regular long
- run of 15-18 each week. It is better to be doing 50 or more for 6 to 8
- weeks before the marathon. This means you have to have the time necessary
- to build to 50 at that 10% rate (with 1 rest week out of every 6) and then
- sustain that 50+ mileage for 6-8 weeks as well. This is a heavy schedule.
- Never doubt that. When you listen to the mega-mileage people talk about 70
- or 80 or more, they make it sound as if everyone should be able to do that.
- Well we CAN'T all do that. We all have a break-down point and for the great
- majority, it lies somewhere below 50 or 60 miles per week. You'll know
- where yours is only after repeated tries to exceed it result in an injury.
-
- Specificly how do you build the mileage? Suppose you are doing an even 3
- miles a day, no more, no less. You must begin by building the long run. In
- a marathon training schedule, the long run is everything. Start the first
- week of the build-up by just lengthening one run. All other days should
- remain the same. Make one, usually Sat. or Sun., a 5-6 miler to get your
- 10% increase. Take the next day off from running. Rest is important after
- the long run to allow your system adjustment time. The next week of the
- build-up, increase the one long run again while still holding the normal
- daily runs the same. As a rule of thumb, your long run can go to 3 times
- the distance of your daily average run. So while still doing regular 3
- milers, you can build up that Sat. morning run to 9 miles. Don't do a 12
- miler though until you have made your daily run 4 miles. This means keeping
- the long run at 9 miles for a few weeks and increasing the daily runs until
- your average is 4 or 5 a day. Then you can return to increasing the long
- run. Toward the end of the build-up you may be doing something like 6-8
- each weekday plus an 18-20 miler on the weekend. It might also be a good
- idea to alternate long runs of 15 and 20 miles every other week.
-
- As you get close to the date of the marathon, run your last long run 2
- weeks before. DO NOT do a long run one week prior to the marathon. In fact
- for the last week you should taper down to do only about half, yes half,
- the mileage you have been doing. DO NOT run the day before and 2 days
- before the race you might only do 3 miles just to get the legs loose and
- the blood flowing. You MUST be well rested for the big race itself.
-
- Now assuming you do everything right there is still no guarrantee that the
- marathon is going to go well. Many things might prevail to make it hurt,
- hot or humid weather, getting caught up in too hard a pace, not drinking
- enough water before or along the way (THE GREATEST SIN). You may even spend
- 3 or 4 months building your training only to come down with an illness or
- injury a few weeks before the race which will set you right back to
- square-one. If you want certainties, you're in the wrong game. What matters
- is not that you get to do that particular marathon on that particular day 5
- months from now, but rather what you plan to do over the next 5 or 10 or 50
- years. I did say running is a long-term game, no?
-
- Another note of caution. All the rules can be broken. You may get away with
- lower training, higher ramp-up rates or shorter long-runs. You might even
- get away with it more than once, but sooner or later it's gonna get ya.
- Take the more conservative plan and be safe. You're looking for a positive
- experience not an injury.
-
- ----------------------------------Major Marathons & partial World Marathon
- Schedule
-
- Please have Marathon Directors fax me (Ozzie 619-281-9468) the dates of
- their marathon from 1995 to 2000. I will create a database of that
- information to post on the rec.running. Have them also include mailing
- address, phone and fax number and e-mail address if they have it. (date:
- 10/10/94)
-
- Boston Marathon 99th Running
- ==================
- The Boston Marathon is held on Patriots day (3rd monday in April). Starting
- time: Noon Boston Marathon qualifying times. (Jack Berkery
- berkery@crdgw2.crd.ge.com)
-
- Entries must be postmarked by March 13, 1995.
-
- To receive a race application, please send a business-size self addressed
- stamped envelope to:
- Boston Athletic Association Boston Marathon P.O. Box 1995 Hopkington, MA 01748
-
- Tel: 508-435-6905
- Fax: 508-435-6590
-
- 1996 will be the 100th running of the Boston Marathon
-
- Men: Base Time for ages 18-34 is 3:10 or faster, for each subsequent 5 year
- age group you get another 5 minutes, e.g. for 35-39 the qualifying time is
- 3:15 or faster. Women: Base Time for ages 18-34 is 3:40, with 5 additional
- minutes for each subsequent 5 year age category.
-
- George Parrott, Director of Training/Buffalo Chips Running Club,
- Sacramento, CA.
-
- Age Men Women Wheelchair Divison
- 18-34 3:10 3:40 CLASS MEN WOMEN
- 35-39 3:15 3:45 1 (Quad Class) 3:00 3:10
- 40-44 3:20 3:50 2-5 2:10 2:35
- 45-49 3:25 3:55
- 50-54 3:30 4:00
- 55-59 3:35 4:05
- 60-64 3:40 4:10
- 65-69 3:45 4:15
- 70+ 3:50 4:20
-
- Note: Your qualifying time is based upon your age on the day of the Boston
- Marathon, April 17, 1995. Example: You run a qualifying race at the age of
- 44 in 3:22. You then have a birthday before the Boston Marathon, making you
- 45. You qualify, because your required qualification time is 3:25.
-
- Chicago Marathon (October 30, 1994)
- ===================
-
- Chicago Marathon
- 214 W. Erie
- Chicago, IL 60610
- (312) 951-0660 [VOICE]
- (312) 943-0881 [FAX]
-
- Grandma's Marathon
- ====================
-
- Saturday, June 17, 1995
- Send SASE to:
- Gandma's Marathon
- P.O. Box 16234
- Duluth, MN 55816
- (218) 727-0947
-
- London Marathon
- ====================
- (atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell,G2,3123,homephone)) UK entrants
-
- In October get the *proper* form from London, fill in and enclose cheque.
- You should find out before Xmas if you are picked in the lottery. . If you
- have run a sub 2h40 time (men) or sub 3h10 time (ladies) no need for
- lottery as you qualify for the national championships (held in conjunction
- with London).
-
- Non-UK entrants
-
- You can get on "official" trips to come to the UK to run London from sports
- travel firms. If you book with a sports travel firm you will definitely get
- an entry. Going it alone then write:
-
- London Marathon
- PO Box 3460
- London, England SE1 8RZ
- 44 71 620 4117
- 44 71 620 4208 fax
-
- Los Angeles Marathon
- ====================
-
- Los Angeles Marathon
- 11110 W. Ohio Avenue, #100
- Los Angeles, CA 90025-3329
- (310) 444-5544
- AGE 18-59 60+
-
- Marine Corps Marathon October 23, 1994
- =====================
-
- Marine Corps Marathon
- Box 188
- Quantico, VA 22134
- 703/640-2225
-
- New York Marathon Nov. 6, 1994
- =====================
- For U.S. residents: Send a self-addressed #10 business-size envelope (about
- 4" x 9.5") and a check or money order (no cash) for a $5.00 non-refundable
- handling fee. Make the check payable to: NYRRC.
-
- * Send AFTER midnight of "set start date." All requests must be posted
- "start date" or later.
-
- NYRRC
- P.O. Box 1766 GPO
- New York, NY 10116
- (212) 860-4455
-
- (Joseph Aloysius McVeigh jm0i@lehigh.edu) The NYRRC sets a "start date" for
- accepting requests for applications, about May 15-20. Prospective
- applicants must send a SASE and $5, postmarked ON OR AFTER this date, to a
- PO Box in NY. They send a blank application, with no guarantee of anything,
- fairly promptly.
-
- Fill it out and return it ASAP. A caveat: You must be a member of UST&F,
- the USA's governing federation of running, to run in the NYCM. You can
- apply for entry along with your marathon application; instructions and
- UST&F application are sent with the blank NYCM application. Makes it very
- easy.
-
- Applications accepted on the following basis:
-
- 8,000 slots are reserved for non-USA runners (don't know how these are
- allocated).
-
- 12,000 applications are accepted "first-come, first served" basis. The
- NYRRC claims that this is not a tough thing if you act promptly - i.e. send
- your request for ap on "Opening Day", and mail back the completed ap within
- a day or two.
-
- 5,000 slots remain. Once the above criteria are filled, all applications
- received go (figuratively) into a big, big box. In late July or early
- August, the NYRRC draws out the 5,000 lucky envelopes. These entries are
- accepted. They keep drawing a few hundred more, I guess, to set up a
- waiting list in the event of cancellations.
-
- NB: the rest of the applications are returned with refunded entry fee.
-
-
- San Francisco Marathon ======================
- City of San Francisco Marathon
- P.O. Box 77148
- San Francisco, CA 94107
- (415) 871-2123
-
- Honolulu Marathon (Dec. 11, 1994)
- ======================
- Honolulu Marathon Assoc.
- 3435 Waialae Ave. #208
- Honolulu, HI 96816
- 808-734-7200
-
-
-
- Nov 24 Atlanta Atlanta, GA 404-231-9065
-
- Nov 26 Seattle Seattle, WA 205-935-6766
- Nov 27 Cincinnati Cincinnati, OH 413-898-7015
- BANGKOK Thailand 66-2-226-3119
- Dec 3 Death Valley Death Valley, CA 415-868-1829
- Alamogordo White Sands, NM 505-437-6120
- Dec 4 Cal. Int'l Sacramento, CA 916-443-6223
- White Rock Dallas, TX 214-526-5318
- Memphis Memphis, TN 800-489-4040
- West Hemisp Culver City, CA 310-202-5689
- BARBADOS Barbados 809-435-8000
- MACAU China 708-251-6421
- Dec 10 Kiawah Is. Charleston, SC 803-768-3400
- Mississippi Clinton, MS 601-856-9884
- Rocket City Huntsville, AL 205-881-9077
- Stinson Bch Stinson Bch, CA 415-868-1829
- Dec 11 Delaware Wilmington, DE 302-654-6400
- Desert Cities Palm Springs, CA 619-568-6785
- Honolulu Honolulu, HI 808-734-7200
- Dec 11 FLORENCE Italy 617-242-7845
- Dec 18 Jacksonville Jacksonville, FL 904-739-1917
-
- 1995
- Jan 8 Disney World Orlando, Fl 407-827-7200
- Jan 15 Tenneco Houston, TX 713-864-9305
- Jan 15 VIET NAM Hanoi 301-320-3663
- Jan 20 PYRAMIDS Cairo, Egypt 301-320-3663
- Jan 21 Mardi Gras New Orleans, LA 504-482-6682
- Jan 22 San Diego San Diego, CA 619-929-0909
- Feb 4 Las Vegas Las Vegas, NV 702-876-3870
- Feb 5 Long Beach Long Beach, CA 310-494-2664
- Feb 12 Lost Soles Talent, OR 503-535-4854
- Feb ? Space Coast Melbourne, FL 407-255-9634
- Feb ? Was. Birthdy Greenbelt, MD 703-256-2327
- Feb? TOKYO Japan 81-3-3481-2300
- Feb 25 TAHITI Moorea, Polynesia 310-414-8484
- SEVILLA Spain 34-5-95-452-0033
- Feb? Blue Angel Pensacola FL 904-452-2159
- Feb 25 Cowtown Forth Worth, TX 817-735-2033
- Feb? Smokey Mt Knowville, TN 615-524-5040
- Feb ? Hyannis Hyannis, MA 508-778-6965
- Feb? Miami Miami, FL 305-227-1500
- Mar 5 Motorola Austin, TX 512-472-3272
- Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA 310-444-5544
- Mar 5 Napa Valley Napa, CA 707-255-2609
- Mar 12 CHINA CST Hong Kong, China 852-687-0018
- TEL AVIV Israel 972-3-561-3322
- DONG-A Int'l Seoul, Korea 120-715
- Mar 12 Maui Kahului, HI 808-871-6441
- Mar 18 Sat Catalina Is. Catalina, CA 310-433-4557
- Mar? Music City Nashville, TN 615-889-1306
- Mar? Shamrock Virginia Bch, VA 804-481-5090
- BOLOGNA Italy 39-51-356-208
- Apr? Great SW Abilene, TX 915-677-8144
- Apr? Lake Powell Page, AZ 602-645-5770
- Apr? VIENNA Austria 43-1-402-6917
- Apr? BRASILIA Brazil 55-61-242-5298
- Apr 2 LONDON England 44-71-620-4117
- Apr? ROTTERDAM Netherlands 31-10-417-28-86
- Apr 17 Boston Boston, MA 508-435-6905
- Apr? Dairyland Medford, WI 715-748-4729
- Apr 30 Big Sur Carmel, CA 408-625-6226
- Apr? MADRID Madrid, Spain 34-1-266-9701
- Apr? PARIS Paris, France 33-1-42-77-17-84
- Apr? TURIN Turin, Italy 39-11-636-1231
- Apr? FLETCHER Rotorua, N. Zealand 64-7-348-8448
- Apr? Yonkers Yonkers, NY 914-377-6450
- May? Ave. of Giants Weott, CA 281 Hidden Valley Rd
- Bayside CA 95524
- May 7 VANCOUVER BC Canada 604-872-2928
- May? Buffalo Buffalo, NY 716-837-7223
- May 7 Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 412-765-3773
- May? Lincoln Lincoln, NE 402-423-4519
- May? Long Is. East Meadow, NY 516-572-0251
- May? Lake Geneva Lake Geneva, WI 414-248-4323
- May? BUDAPEST Hungry 36-1-267-6560
- May? Shiprock Farmington, NM 505-599-2201
- May 14 Revco Cleveland, OH 800-467-3826
- May 14 Nat'l Capital Ottawa, Ont Canada 613-234-2221
- May? MUNCHEN Munich, Germany 49-89-641-0616
- May? TORONTO Ontario 416-495-4311
- May? WROCLAW Poland 48-71-552-087
- May? Muir Woods Muir Wood, CA 415-868-1829
- May? Coeur D'Alene Couerd'Alene, ID 208-765-6019
- May? COPENHAGEN Denmark 45-38-34-1400
- May? KUALA LUMPUR Malaysia
- May? Vermont City Burlington, VT 800-642-5154
- May? Wyoming Cheyenne, WY 307-635-3316
- June? Steamboat Steamboat Sprgs, CO 303-879-0882
- May? STOCKHOLM Sweden 46-8-667-1930
- May? MELBOURNE Australia 61-3-429-5105
- June 10 Palos Verdes Palos Verdes, CA 310-828-4123
- (2nd Sat. in June)
- Jun? Valley of Flwrs Lompoc, CA 805-735-3255
- Jun 17 Grandma's Duluth, MN 218-727-0947
- YUKON Yukon, Canada 403-668-4236
- MANITOBA Canada 204-985-4183
- Midnight Sun Anchorage AK 907-343-4474
- High Sierra Truckee, CA 510-223-5778
- Sum. Solstice Muir Bch, CA 415-868-1829
- PRAGUE Czchoslovakia 42-2-207-429
- Jun 25 KILIMANJARO Tanzania 310-320-3663
- MIDNIGHT SUN Norway 47-83-22-583
- Pk. of Roses Columbus, OH 513-898-7015
- Jul? Salmon River Salmon, ID 208-756-2100
- ARTIC CIRCLE Nanasivik, Canada1 301-320-3663
- PAAVO NURMI Turku, Ffinland 358-21-503-526
- CALGARY Alberta, Canada 403-270-8828
- GOLD COAST Queensland, Australia 61-75-726-089
- Deseret News Salt Lake City, UT 801-237-2135
- Kilauea Volcano Hawaii Nat.Pk. HI 808-967-8222
- San Francisco San Francisco, CA 415-391-2123
- Aug. ? Frank Maier Juneau, AL 907-364-3563
- Crater Lk. Rim Klamath Falls, OR 503-884-6939
- HELSINKI Finland 358-0-149-6731
- SIBERIAN Omsk, Russia 7-3812-311-844
- Paavo Nurmi Upson, WI 715-561-2922
- Mammouth Mt El Sobrante, CA 510-223-5778
- Donner Pass Donner Lake, CA 415-868-1829
- Aug 19 Pikes Pk Ascnt Manitou Spgs, CO 719-473-2625
- Aug 20 Pikes Peak Manitou Spgs, CO 719-473-2625
- MEXICO CITY Mexico 52-5-688-9135
- EDMONTON Alberta, Canada 403-433-6062
- REYKJAVIK Iceland 354-1-626-385
- Snowgoose Anchorage, AK 907-337-8606
- Silver State Reno, NV 702-849-0419
- ADELAIDE Australia 61-8-213-0615
- Sep? Black Hills Rapid City, SD 605-348-7866
- Heart of Rockies Helena MT 406-442-9622
- SASKATCHEWAN Canada 306-382-2962
- Tupelo Tupelo, MS 601-842-2039
- Scotty Hanton Port Huron, MI 810-985-9623
- Heart of America Columbia MO 314-445-2684 (Labor Day, 6 am)
- Bismarck Mismarck, ND 701-255-1525
- Duke City Albuquerque, NM 505-888-2448
- Eriesistible Erie, PA 814-899-43974
- MONTREAL Canada 514-284-5272
- Pueblo River Pueblo, CO 719-543-5151
- Equinox Fairbanks, AK 907-452-1341
- Sep. 9 OSLO Norway 47-22-565-370
- Clarence Demar Gilsum NH Box 6257, Keene, NH 03431
- BERLIN Germany 49-30-392-1102
- AMSTERDAM Holland 301-320-3663
- Oct St. George St. George, UT 801-634-5850
- Oct Maine Portland, ME 207-725-0716
- Portland Portland, OR 503-226-1111
- Sacramento Sacramento,CA 916-678-5005
- Twin Cities Minneapolis, MN 612-673-0778
- Oct Denver Int'l Denver, CO 303-534-6555
- Jim Thorpe Okla. City, OK 405-232-3060
- Oct Atlantic City Atalantic, NJ 609-822-6911
- ATHENS Greece 617-242-7845
- LAUSANNE Switzerland 617-242-7845
- Detroit Detroit, MI 313-222-6676
- St. Louis St Louis, MO 314-781-3726
- Oct Marine Corps Wash. DC 703-640-2225
- FRANKFURT Germany 49-69-596-1023
- CATS AC Hamlin, NY 716-473-8337
- Oct Chicago Chicago, IL 312-951-0660
- Kansas City Kansas City, MO 816-531-2387
- Ocean State Narragansett, RI 401-885-1382
- Shoreline Bridgeport CT 203-384-9911
- Big Sur Trail Big Sur, CA 415-868-1829
- Oct. DUBLIN Ireland 617-242-7845
- Nov. New York New York, NY 212-860-4455
- Omaha Omaha, NE 402-553-8349
- Rhode Is. Providence, RI 401-351-2556
- Nov. Jerusalem Israel 972-356-10-887
- Nov Sky to Sea Santa Cruz, CA 415-868-1829
- Nov Columbus Columbus, OH 614-433-0395
- Nov Tulsa Tulsa, OK 918-742-4127
- Nov Havana Havana Cuba 613-387-3080
- Harrisburg Harrisburg, PA 717-652-7002
- San Antonio San Antonio, TX 210-821-6046
- Dec 3 MACAU Macau, Hong Kong 301-320-3663
-
- Many tours to the large national and international marathons are organized by:
-
- Marathon Tours
- 108 Main St
- Charleston MA 02129
- (617) 242-7845
-
- Marie Frances Productions
- 7603 New Market Dr
- Bethesda, MD 20817
- 301-320-3363
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Miscellaneous
-
- I pulled this chart out of _Marathoning_ by Manfred Steffny. It's an old
- book (originally published 1977). (Robert Davidson DAVIDSON%MARICOPA.EDU)
-
- Max. possible Realistic
- 10Km marathon time marathon time
- ------ ------------- -------------
- 27:00 2:05:00 2:08:30
- 28:00 2:10:00 2:14:00
- 29:00 2:15:00 2:19:30
- 30:00 2:20:00 2:25:00
- 31:00 2:25:00 2:30:30
- 32:00 2:30:00 2:36:00
- 33:00 2:35:00 2:43:00
- 34:00 2:40:00 2:49:00
- 35:00 2:45:00 2:55:00
- 36:00 2:50:00 3:00:00
- 37:00 2:55:00 3:07:00
- 38:00 3:00:00 3:15:00
- 39:00 3:05:00 3:20:00
- 40:00 3:10:00 3:25:00
- 42:30 3:22:00 3:42:30
- 45:00 3:35:00 4:00:00
- 47:30 3:47:30 4:20:00
- 50:00 4:00:00 4:40:00
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-
- Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.
- Ozzie Gontang <downtech@cerfnet.com>
- Downing & Associates
- 11300 Sorrento Valley Rd. Ste 103
- San Diego, CA 92121
- ph.619-458-1101 fax 619-452-3708
-
-
- Archive-name: running-faq/part4
- Last-modified: 15 November 1994
- Posting-Frequency: Monthly
-
-
- Answers to REC.RUNNING FAQ and Interesting Information
-
- This posting contains answers to frequently asked questions posted to
- rec.running plus interesting & useful information for runners. If known,
- author's name/email address are given. Send me (Ozzie Gontang) any
- corrections,updates, suggestions, or proper info of sources or holder's of
- copyright. Yonson Serrano <yonson@jazz.Corp.Sun.Com> is acknowledged for
- his fine job as the previous maintainer of the rec.running FAQ.
-
- Austin "Ozzie" Gontang
- downtech@cerfnet.com (Ozzie Gontang)
-
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-
- Medical / Injuries
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Achilles tendinitis (sorry, forgot the author)
-
- General advice:
-
- 1. Warm up before you stretch. This could be in the form of a slow jog as
- you start your run. When I feel it necessary, I stop for a few minutes and
- stretch during the early stages of a run.
-
- 2. Stretch after your run. This has proven the best solution for me.
- Whenever I skip this part, I end up stiff the next day. The muscles are
- nice and warm after a run and respond well to stretching. My flexibility
- has improved as a result of this practice, too.
-
- 3. With regards to an injury, you've got to be tough and rest it in order
- for it to heal. This might be a good time to concentrate on strength
- training with weights.
-
- --------------
-
- The good news: since this seems to be your first injury, and your training
- load is light, your tendinitis is probably due to the most simple cause -
- leg length imbalance. Get someone to mark how far you can bend to each
- side, if these are different heights then you might find a heel raiser
- under the bad leg will both even out the side-bend _and_ speed up the
- recovery.
-
- The bad news: achilles is notoriously slow to heal even with the correct
- treatment. And the chances of recurrence are quite high. However the
- condition you describe shouldn't prevent your training, as long as you
- promote healing with stretching, massage (calf/inner thigh/groin), ice,
- etc...
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Shin splints (Harry Y Xu hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu) (Doug Poirier
- os2user@dougp.austin.ibm.com) (Rodney Sanders rdsand@ccmail.monsanto.com)
-
- Excerpts from _The SprotsMedicine Book_ by Gabe Mirkin, MD. and Marshall
- Hoffman:
-
- ``Shin splints are....condition that can result from muscle imbalance. They
- are characterized by generalized pain in front of the lower leg and are
- particularly comon in runners and running backs.... The most common cause
- is a muscle imbalance where the calf muscles--which pull the forefoot
- down--overpower the shin muscles--which pull the forefoot up. As the
- athlete continues to train, the calf muscle usually becomes proportionately
- much stronger than the shin muscles.
-
- The treatment for shin splints is to strengthen the weaker muscles (shins)
- and stretch the stronger muscles (calves).
-
- To strengthen the shins, run up stairs. To stretch the calves,...(do
- stretching exercises for the calves, et. the wall push-ups)'' *end of
- exerpts.
-
- _________________________________________
-
- In my experience, I have found that stretching is the real key to avoiding
- shin-splints. I believe there's a book with stretches by Bob Anderson that
- you may want to check. Also, back issues of running magazines sometimes
- have helpful information. Basically, I do the standard "lean on the wall
- stretch" and a stretch by standing flat-footed on one leg and bending at
- the knee to stretch the achilles. I then top these off with a few toe
- raises (no weights!) before I head out to run... If you're having trouble,
- I'd recommend stretching 2-3 times a day until you get over the problem.
- Start slowly!
-
- Also, you probably should avoid hills and extremely hard surfaces until the
- situation improves. I've known several people who've had shin splints and
- gotten over them by stretching. (Of course, you should be careful in case
- the shin splints are the result of a more severe problem...)
-
- ------------------------
-
- Help with shin splints.
-
- 1. Try picking up marbles with your toes and holding onto them for a few
- seconds.
-
- 1A. While recovering from shin splints, it may help to use a wedge in the
- heel of your shoes. By raising the heel, you are reducing the pull on the
- muscles and tendons on the front.
-
- 2. Stand on the stairs with your heels out over the edge. Lower your heels
- as far as they will go without undue discomfort, and hold for 15 seconds.
- Slowly raise yourself up on your toes. Repeat 5 million times. (Sherwood
- Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca)
-
- 3. If you can, rig something with either surgical tubing or a large
- rubberband. For example: put the tubing around one of the back legs of your
- desk in some sort of a loop. Reach under the tubing with your toes, with
- your heel as a pivot pull the tubing toward you. This will work the muscle
- in the front of the shins. Repeat 6 million times. It's easier than the
- stair exercise
-
- 4. Run on different terrain, preferably grass. It'll absorb the shock.
-
- 5. This normally affects knees, but it might affect shins. Don't run on the
- same side of the road all of the time. It is sloped left or right to let
- the water run off. Running on the same slope for long periods of time will
- cause adverse effects to the ankles, shins...etc.... If you are running on
- a track, alternate your direction of travel, as the lean when you are going
- around the corners is at least as bad as the crown slope of a road. This is
- especially true of small indoor tracks.
-
- 6. For strenghening the front muscles: Make a training weight by tying a
- strip of cloth to a pop bottle. Sit on the kitchen counter top, hang the
- bottle from your toes, and raise it up and down by flexing your ankle. The
- weight can be adjusted by adding water or sand to the bottle. (Sherwood
- Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca)
-
- 7. Scatter a few chunks of 2x4 around the house where you tend to stand,
- say kitchen and bathroom. Now everytime you are at the stove or at the
- bathroom (in front of either fixture) stand on the 2x4 and rest your heels
- on the floor. One in front of the TV and used during every commercial will
- either stretch you, or stop you from watching TV. (Sherwood Botsford
- sherwood@space.ualberta.ca)
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Side stitches (Jack Berkery berkery@emmax5crd.ge.com)
-
- The Latest Word on Stitches
-
- In the May-June 1992 issue of Running Research News there is an article by
- Dr. Gordon Quick about the causes of and cures for stitches. To summarize:
-
- 1) Stitches are a muscle spasm of the diaphragm. The cause of the spasm is
- that the organs below it are jouncing up and down and pulling down as it
- wants to pull up. The liver being the largest organ is the biggest culprit
- which is why most stitches are on the right side. A stomach full of food
- may also contribute to the problem for the same reason. Stitches also occur
- more often when running downhill or in cold weather.
-
- 2) The cure seems almost too simple. Breathe out when your left foot
- strikes the ground instead of when the right foot strikes so that the
- organs on the right side of the abdomen are jouncing up when the diaphragm
- is going up. The organs attached to the bottom of the diaphragm on the left
- aren't as big, so exert less downward pulling strain. If this is not enough
- to get rid of it, stop and raise you arms above your head until the pain
- goes away and when you resume, be a left foot breather. (Conversely, if
- your stitch occurs on the left side, switch your breathing to exhale on the
- right foot.)
-
- 3) Do not eat anything for an hour before running if you are prone to
- stitches, BUT PLEASE DO DRINK WATER. Water empties from the stomach faster
- than solids and the risk of complications from dehydration far exceed the
- problems one may have with a stitch.
-
- 4) In the long term, exercises to strengthen the abdominal muscles will
- help prevent stitches because tighter abs will allow less movement of those
- internal organs. Practice belly breathing instead of chest breathing as
- recommended by Noakes. For the most part, stitches diminish over time.
- While they are not strictly a novice runner's problem (about 1/3 of all
- runners get them from time to time) they usually will go away after a few
- weeks of conditioning.
-
- --------------
-
- By Dr. Tim Noakes Oxford University Press, 1985. This is quoted verbatim
- from "Lore of Running"
-
- Proper breathing prevents the development of the `stitch'. The stitch is a
- condition that occurs only during exercise and which causes severe pain
- usually on the right side of the abdomen, immediately below the rib margin.
- Frequently the pain is also perceived in the right shoulder joint, where it
- feels as if an ice-pick were being driven into the joint. The pain is
- exacerbated by down-hill running and by fast, sustained running as in a
- short road race or time trial. For various complex anatomical reasons, the
- fact that the stitch causes pain to be felt in the shoulder joint suggests
- that the diaphragm is the source of the pain.
-
- It has been suggested that when breathing with the chest too much air is
- drawn into the lungs, and not all is exhaled. This causes a gradual and
- progressive accumulation of air in the lungs, causing them to expand which
- in turn causes the diaphragm to be stretched and to encroach on the
- abdominal contents below it. During running, the over-stretched diaphragm
- becomes sandwiched between an over-expanded chest above, and a jolting
- intestine pounding it from below. It revolts by going into spasm, and the
- pain of this spasm is recognized as the stitch.
-
- Although there is really not a shred of scientific evidence for this
- belief, I have found that diaphragm spasm is almost certainly involved in
- the stitch and that belly-breathing can frequently relieve the pain.
-
- The runner who wishes to learn how to belly-breath should lie on the floor
- and place one or more large books on his stomach. He should concentrate on
- making the books rise when he breathes in and fall when he exhales. As it
- takes about two months to learn to do the movement whilst running fast, it
- is important to start practicing well before an important race.
-
- A change in breathing pattern may help relieve the stitch. Within a short
- period of starting running, breathing becomes synchronized with footfall.
- Thus one automatically breaths in on one leg and out when landing either on
- the same leg - that is 2, 3 or 4 full strides later - or on the opposite
- leg - that is 1 1/2, 2 1/2, or 3 1/2 strides later. Thus the ratio of
- stride to breathing may be 2:1, 3:1, 4:1; or 1.5:1, 2.5:1, 3.5:1.
-
- This phenomenon was first reported by Bramble and Carrier (1983). Of
- particular interest was their finding that most runners are `footed', that
- is the beginning and end of a respiratory cycle occurs on the same foot,
- usually in a stride to breathing ratio of either 4:1 whilst jogging or 2:1
- whilst running faster. Runners then become habituated to breathing out on
- the same let, day after day. This produces asymmetrical stresses on the
- body and could be a factor in both the stitch and in certain running
- injuries. I am `left-footed' and have also suffered my major running
- injuries only on my left side. If changes in breathing patterns do not
- prevent the stitch then the last step is to increase abdominal muscle
- strength. The correct way to strengthen the abdominal muscles is to do
- bent-knee sit ups with the feet unsupported.
-
- --------------
-
- EDITORS NOTE: Readers response to "Belly Breathing" definition above.
- "Belly Breathing" (Lamont Granquist lamontg@u.washington.edu)
-
- While I wasn't breathing with my chest, I wasn't really "Belly Breathing".
- When I exhaled, what I was doing was pulling my stomach muscles in. I found
- out that this is *not* the way to "Belly Breathe". The idea is to throw
- your gut out as much as possible -- try and look as fat & ugly as you can
- when you run. For the suggestion in the FAQ of lying on your back and
- lifting a book, it should probably be noted that when exhaling you want to
- try to keep the book lifted up (of course naturally, you don't want to try
- to do this all so hard that it becomes difficult to exhale -- the idea is
- that breathing this way should be comfortable).
-
- --------------
- Stitches continued (Sunil Dixit sd007b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu)
-
- 1. Since it is a cramp, I try not to drink or eat too soon before my runs,
- and I try to limit my intake during runs.
-
- 2. I stretch my abs extensively before a run. Putting my arm over my head
- and leaning to the opposite side until I'm pulling on the side of my
- abdominals works well.
-
- 3. I regulate my breathing by breathing in through my nose, and out through
- my mouth. This sounds like zen-crap, but believe me, it works amazingly
- well in eliminating all types of cramping. When you first do it, it'll feel
- like you're not getting enough oxygen, but if you persist the technique
- will become very comfortable.
-
- 4. I run with my back fairly straight, even up hills. This keeps the lungs
- from bending over in my body, and makes it much easier to breathe.
-
- 5. If none of these work, I keep going anyway. After about 3 miles, it
- usually goes away . . . if you're lucky.
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Lactic Acid (Rob Loszewski loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu)
-
- "Lactic acid buildup (technically called acidosis) can cause burning pain,
- especially in untrained muscles. Lactic acid accumulation can lead to
- muscle exhaustion withing seconds if the blood cannot clear it away. A
- strategy for dealing with lactic acid buildup is to relax the muscles at
- every opportunity, so that the circulating blood can carry the lactic acid
- away and bring oxygen to support aerobic metabolism. ...much of the lactic
- acid is routed to the liver, where it is converted to glucose. A little
- lactic acid remains in muscle tissue, where it is completely oxidized when
- the oxygen supply is once again sufficient." Understanding Nutrition, 5th
- ed., Whitney, Hamilton, Rolfes., West Pub. Comp. 1990, pg402- 403.
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Loose Bowels (Rodney Sanders rdsand@ccmail.monsanto.com)
-
- Some general advice to take care of loose bowels.
-
- (1) Look for offending foods in your diet. For example, many people have a
- lactose intolerance which can cause all sorts of fun if you had a triple
- cheese pizza the night before the run...
-
- (2) If you run in the morning, eat lightly and early the night before... I
- try to make sure I eat the least problematic foods close to my workouts...
- I've personally found baked chicken/fish, baked potatoes, and pasta with
- light sauces (no alfredo!), to be pretty good...
-
- (3) I read that Bill Rodgers drinks a cup of coffee in the morning before
- heading out...The caffeine stimulates one to take care of things completely
- before getting out...This has helped me when I run in the morning....
-
- (4) Carry a wad of toilet paper with you!
-
- I suspect that if you monitor your diet closely, you'll probably find
- something that makes the problem worse than at other times and you can
- avoid that food...
-
- Some other advice: (Sanjay Manandhar sanjay@media-lab.media.mit.edu) 1.
- Less fiber in the diet 2. Run repeats on small loops.
- 3. Note all the washrooms along the route. 4. Time of day. For me, mornings
- are bad. In the evening runs the problem is infrequent. 5. A primer run. If
- I have to run in the mornings, I run 1 mile of primer run so that the
- bowels can be taken care of. Then I start my real run.
-
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- Diabetes & Running (Timothy Law Snyder tim@normal.georgetown.edu)
-
- Oops, here is what makes virutually every person with diabetes bristle:
- MYTHS of diabetes!
-
- Not to flame Jay, but diabetics can (and do) eat as much sugar, drink as
- much booze, and run as many marathons as anybody else. The challenge is
- that they must manage the delicate balance between insulin (which lowers
- blood sugar), food (which raises it), and exercise (which, because it
- stokes up the metabolism and makes the insulin "rage") lowers blood sugar.
- Timing is important, and sometimes, due to the millions of factors that are
- at play (and _not_ due to negligence), the blood sugar will go too high or
- too low.
-
- Before a run, a person with diabetes (nobody in the know calls them
- "diabetics" any more) must make sure that the blood sugar is somewhat
- higher than normal. This gives a "pad" so that exercise does not result in
- a low-sugar crisis. Often the runner will take less insulin the day of the
- run. Before (and for long runs, during) the run some food must be eaten.
- For short runs, carbos will do, but proteins and fats are also necessary
- for the longer hauls.
-
- For a marathon, one must take some sort of food during the run. A high-
- carbo source like a soda works well, for the sugar is taken up immediately
- and, since the beverage is concentrated, it is easily digested (relative
- to, say, the caloric equivalent in whole wheat : ).
-
- Sugar does absolutely _no_ harm to the person with diabetes (provided, they
- do not ignore insulin requirements). That's right: The person could knock
- off twelve sodas, an entire chocolate cake, and a bag of M&Ms, and be as
- "fine" as anybody else (quotes intended---yuk!).
-
- While I am at it, here are a couple of other myth corrections: There is no
- clear evidence that diabetes is hereditary. Diabetes has _nothing_ to do
- with how much sugar the person ate before acquiring the condition. People
- with diabetes can (and do) drink as much alcohol as anybody else. (Alcohol
- lowers the blood sugar a tiny bit, so one must be careful to not forget to
- eat [and too many cocktails tend to...].)
-
- Hope this helps. Oh, by the way, NO, the taste of something sweet does not
- cause the release of insulin (save a possible [and rare] placebo effect).
-
- ===========================================================================
-
- Nutrition and Food (Bruce Hildenbrand bhilden@unix386.Convergent.COM) [Ed.
- note: Originally appeared in rec.bicycles]
-
- Oh well, I have been promising to do this for a while and given the present
- discussions on nutrition, it is about the right time. This article was
- written in 1980 for Bicycling Magazine. It has been reprinted in over 30
- publications, been the basis for a chapter in a book and cited numerous
- other times. I guess somebody besides me thinks its OK. If you disagree
- with any points, that's fine, I just don't want to see people take
- exception based on their own personal experiences because everyone is
- different and psychological factors play a big role(much bigger than you
- would think) on how one perceives his/her own nutritional requirements.
- Remember that good nutrition is a LONG TERM process that is not really
- affected by short term events(drinking poison would be an exception). If it
- works for you then do it!!! Don't preach!!!!
-
-
- Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.
- Ozzie Gontang <downtech@cerfnet.com>
- Downing & Associates
- 11300 Sorrento Valley Rd. Ste 103
- San Diego, CA 92121
- ph.619-458-1101 fax 619-452-3708
-
-
- Archive-name: running-faq/part5
- Last-modified: 15 November 1994
- Posting-Frequency: Monthly
-
-
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- BASIC NUTRITION PRIMER
-
- Nutrition in athletics is a very controversial topic. However, for an
- athlete to have confidence that his/her diet is beneficial he/she must
- understand the role each food component plays in the body's overall makeup.
- Conversely, it is important to identify and understand the nutritional
- demands on the physiological processes of the body that occur as a result
- of racing and training so that these needs can be satisfied in the
- athlete's diet.
-
- For the above reasons, a basic nutrition primer should help the athlete
- determine the right ingredients of his/her diet which fit training and
- racing schedules and existing eating habits. The body requires three basic
- components from foods: 1) water; 2) energy; and 3)nutrients.
-
- WATER
-
- Water is essential for life and without a doubt the most important
- component in our diet. Proper hydrations not only allows the body to
- maintain structural and biochemical integrity, but it also prevents
- overheating, through sensible heat loss(perspiration). Many *runners* have
- experienced the affects of acute fluid deficiency on a hot day, better
- known as heat exhaustion. Dehydration can be a long term problem,
- especially at altitude, but this does not seem to be a widespread problem
- among *runners* and is only mentioned here as a reminder (but an important
- one).
-
- ENERGY
-
- Energy is required for metabolic processes, growth and to support physical
- activity. The Food and Nutrition Board of the National Academy of Sciences
- has procrastinated in establishing a Recommended Daily Allowance(RDA) for
- energy the reasoning being that such a daily requirement could lead to
- overeating. A moderately active 70kg(155lb) man burns about 2700 kcal/day
- and a moderately active 58kg(128lb) woman burns about 2500 kcal/day.
-
- It is estimated that runners burn XXXX kcal/min or about XXX-XXX kcal/hr
- while *running* (this is obviously dependent on the level of exertion).
- Thus a three hour training *run* can add up to XXXX kcals(the public knows
- these as calories) to the daily energy demand of the *runner*. Nutritional
- studies indicate that there is no significant increase in the vitamin
- requirement of the athlete as a result of this energy expenditure.
-
- In order to meet this extra demand, the *runner* must increase his/her
- intake of food. This may come before, during or after a *run* but most
- likely it will be a combination of all of the above. If for some reason
- extra nutrients are required because of this extra energy demand, they will
- most likely be replenished through the increased food intake. Carbohydrates
- and fats are the body's energy sources and will be discussed shortly.
-
- NUTRIENTS
-
- This is a broad term and refers to vitamins, minerals, proteins,
- carbohydrates, fats, fiber and a host of other substances. The body is a
- very complex product of evolution. It can manufacture many of the resources
- it needs to survive. However, vitamins, minerals and essential amino
- acids(the building blocks of proteins) and fatty acids cannot be
- manufactured, hence they must be supplied in our food to support proper
- health.
-
- Vitamins and Minerals
-
- No explanation needed here except that there are established RDA's for most
- vitamins and minerals and that a well balanced diet, especially when
- supplemented by a daily multivitamin and mineral tablet should meet all the
- requirements of the cyclist.
-
- Proper electrolyte replacement(sodium and potassium salts) should be
- emphasized, especially during and after long, hot rides. Commercially
- available preparations such as Exceed, Body Fuel and Isostar help replenish
- electrolytes lost while *running*.
-
- Proteins
-
- Food proteins are necessary for the synthesis of the body's
- skeletal(muscle, skin, etc.) and biochemical(enzymes, hormones,
- etc.)proteins. Contrary to popular belief, proteins are not a good source
- of energy in fact they produce many toxic substances when they are
- converted to the simple sugars needed for the body's energy demand.
-
- Americans traditionally eat enough proteins to satisfy their body's
- requirement. All indications are that increased levels of exercise do not
- cause a significant increase in the body's daily protein requirement which
- has been estimated to be 0.8gm protein/kg body weight.
-
- Carbohydrates
-
- Carbohydrates are divided into two groups, simple and complex, and serve as
- one of the body's two main sources of energy.
-
- Simple carbohydrates are better known as sugars, examples being fructose,
- glucose(also called dextrose), sucrose(table sugar) and lactose(milk
- sugar).
-
- The complex carbohydrates include starches and pectins which are
- multi-linked chains of glucose. Breads and pastas are rich sources of
- complex carbohydrates.
-
- The brain requires glucose for proper functioning which necessitates a
- carbohydrate source. The simple sugars are quite easily broken down to help
- satisfy energy and brain demands and for this reason they are an ideal food
- during racing and training. The complex sugars require a substantially
- longer time for breakdown into their glucose sub units and are more suited
- before and after riding to help meet the body's energy requirements.
-
- Fats
-
- Fats represent the body's other major energy source. Fats are twice as
- dense in calories as carbohydrates(9 kcal/gm vs 4 kcal/gm) but they are
- more slowly retrieved from their storage units(triglycerides) than
- carbohydrates(glycogen). Recent studies indicate that caffeine may help
- speed up the retrieval of fats which would be of benefit on long rides.
-
- Fats are either saturated or unsaturated and most nutritional experts agree
- that unsaturated, plant-based varieties are healthier. Animal fats are
- saturated(and may contain cholesterol), while plant based fats such as corn
- and soybean oils are unsaturated. Unsaturated fats are necessary to supply
- essential fatty acids and should be included in the diet to represent about
- 25% of the total caloric intake. Most of this amount we don't really
- realize we ingest, so it is not necessary to heap on the margarine as a
- balanced diet provides adequate amounts.
-
- WHAT THE BODY NEEDS
-
- Now that we have somewhat of an understanding of the role each food
- component plays in the body's processes let's relate the nutritional
- demands that occur during *running* in an attempt to develop an adequate
- diet. Basically our bodies need to function in three separate areas which
- require somewhat different nutritional considerations. These areas are: 1)
- building; 2) recovery; and 3) performance.
-
- Building
-
- Building refers to increasing the body's ability to perform physiological
- processes, one example being the gearing up of enzyme systems necessary for
- protein synthesis, which results in an increase in muscle mass, oxygen
- transport, etc. These systems require amino acids, the building blocks of
- proteins. Hence, it is important to eat a diet that contains quality
- proteins (expressed as a balance of the essential amino acid sub units
- present)fish, red meat, milk and eggs being excellent sources.
-
- As always, the RDA's for vitamins and minerals must also be met but, as
- with the protein requirement, they are satisfied in a well balanced diet.
-
- Recovery
-
- This phase may overlap the building process and the nutritional
- requirements are complimentary. Training and racing depletes the body of
- its energy reserves as well as loss of electrolytes through sweat.
- Replacing the energy reserves is accomplished through an increased intake
- of complex carbohydrates(60-70% of total calories) and to a lesser extent
- fat(25%). Replenishing lost electrolytes is easily accomplished through the
- use of the commercial preparations already mentioned.
-
- Performance
-
- Because the performance phase(which includes both training *runs* and
- racing)spans at most 5-7 hours whereas the building and recovery phases are
- ongoing processes, its requirements are totally different from the other
- two. Good nutrition is a long term proposition meaning the effects of a
- vitamin or mineral deficiency take weeks to manifest themselves. This is
- evidenced by the fact that it took many months for scurvy to show in
- sailors on a vitamin C deficient diet. What this means is that during the
- performance phase, the primary concern is energy replacement (fighting off
- the dreaded "bonk") while the vitamin and mineral demands can be
- overlooked.
-
- Simple sugars such a sucrose, glucose and fructose are the quickest sources
- of energy and in moderate quantities of about 100gm/hr(too much can delay
- fluid absorption in the stomach) are helpful in providing fuel for the body
- and the brain. Proteins and fats are not recommended because of their slow
- and energy intensive digestion mechanism.
-
- Short, *runs* or races of up to one hour in length usually require no
- special nutritional considerations provided the body's short term energy
- stores (glycogen) are not depleted which may be the case during *long*
- events.
-
- Because psychological as well as physiological factors determine
- performance most *runners* tend to eat and drink whatever makes them feel
- "good" during a *run*. This is all right as long as energy considerations
- are being met and the stomach is not overloaded trying to digest any fatty
- or protein containing foods. If the vitamin and mineral requirements are
- being satisfied during the building and recovery phases no additional
- intake during the performance phase is necessary.
-
- IMPLICATIONS
-
- Basically, what all this means is that good nutrition for the *runner* is
- not hard to come by once we understand our body's nutrient and energy
- requirements. If a balanced diet meets the RDA's for protein, vitamins and
- minerals as well as carbohydrate and fat intake for energy then everything
- should be OK nutritionally. It should be remembered that the problems
- associated with nutrient deficiencies take a long time to occur. Because of
- this it is not necessary to eat "right" at every meal which explains why
- weekend racing junkets can be quite successful on a diet of tortilla chips
- and soft drinks. However, bear in mind that over time, the body's
- nutritional demands must be satisfied. To play it safe many *runners* take
- a daily multivitamin and mineral supplement tablet which has no adverse
- affects and something I personally recommend. Mega vitamin doses(levels
- five times or more of the RDA) have not been proven to be beneficial and
- may cause some toxicity problems.
-
- GREY NUTRITION
-
- "Good" nutrition is not black and white. As we have seen, the body's
- requirements are different depending on the phase it is in. While the
- building and recovery phases occur somewhat simultaneously the performance
- phase stands by itself. For this reason, some foods are beneficial during
- one phase but not during another. A good example is the much maligned
- twinkie. In the performance phase it is a very quick source of energy and
- quite helpful. However, during the building phase it is not necessary and
- could be converted to unwanted fat stores. To complicate matters, the
- twinkie may help replenish energy stores during the recovery phase however,
- complex carbohydrates are probably more beneficial. So, "one man's meat may
- be another man's poison."
-
- NUTRIENT DENSITY
-
- This term refers to the quantity of nutrients in a food for its
- accompanying caloric(energy) value. A twinkie contains much energy but few
- vitamins and minerals so has a low nutrient density. Liver, on the other
- hand, has a moderate amount of calories but is rich in vitamins and
- minerals and is considered a high nutrient density food.
-
- Basically, one must meet his/her nutrient requirements within the
- constraints of his/her energy demands. Persons with a low daily activity
- level have a low energy demand and in order to maintain their body weight
- must eat high nutrient density foods. As already mentioned, a *runner* has
- an increased energy demand but no significant increase in nutrient
- requirements. Because of this he/she can eat foods with a lower nutrient
- density than the average person. This means that a *runner* can be less
- choosy about the foods that are eaten provided he/she realizes his/her
- specific nutrient and energy requirements that must be met.
-
- BALANCED DIET
-
- Now, the definition of that nebulous phrase, "a balanced diet". Taking into
- consideration all of the above, a diet emphasizing fruits and vegetables
- (fresh if possible), whole grain breads, pasta, cereals, milk, eggs, fish
- and red meat(if so desired) will satisfy long term nutritional demands.
- These foods need to be combined in such a way that during the building and
- recovery phase, about 60-70% of the total calories are coming from
- carbohydrate sources, 25% from fats and the remainder(about 15%) from
- proteins.
-
- It is not necessary to get 100% of the RDA for all vitamins and minerals at
- every meal. It may be helpful to determine which nutritional requirements
- you wish to satisfy at each meal. Personally, I use breakfast to satisfy
- part of my energy requirement by eating toast and cereal. During lunch I
- meet some of the energy, protein and to a lesser extent vitamin and mineral
- requirements with such foods as yogurt, fruit, and peanut butter and jelly
- sandwiches. Dinner is a big meal satisfying energy, protein, vitamin and
- mineral requirements with salads, vegetables, pasta, meat and milk. Between
- meal snacking is useful to help meet the body's energy requirement.
-
- CONCLUSION
-
- All this jiberish may not seem to be telling you anything you couldn't
- figure out for yourself. The point is that "good" nutrition is not hard to
- achieve once one understands the reasons behind his/her dietary habits.
- Such habits can easily be modified to accommodate the nutritional demands
- of *running* without placing any strict demands on one's lifestyle.
-
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- Powerbars (John McClintic johnm@hammer.TEK.COM)
-
- I submit the following "power bar" recipe which was originated by a fellow
- named Bill Paterson. Bill is from Portland Oregon.
-
- The odd ingredient in the bar, paraffin, is widely used in chocolate
- manufacture to improve smoothness and flowability, raise the melting point,
- and retard deterioration of texture and flavor. Butter can be used instead,
- but a butter-chocolate mixture doesn't cover as thinly or smoothly.
-
- POWER BARS
- ----------
-
- 1 cup regular rolled oats
- 1/2 cup sesame seed
- 1 1/2 cups dried apricots, finely chopped 1 1/2 cups raisins 1 cup
- shredded unsweetened dry coconut
- 1 cup blanched almonds, chopped
- 1/2 cup nonfat dry milk
- 1/2 cup toasted wheat germ
- 2 teaspoons butter or margarine
- 1 cup light corn syrup
- 3/4 cup sugar
- 1 1/4 cups chunk-style peanut butter
- 1 teaspoon orange extract
- 2 teaspoons grated orange peel
- 1 package (12 oz.) or 2 cups semisweet chocolate
- baking chips
- 4 ounces paraffin or 3/4 cup (3/4 lb.) butter or
- margarine
-
- Spread oats in a 10- by 15-inch baking pan. Bake in a 300 degree oven until
- oats are toasted, about 25 minutes. Stir frequently to prevent scorching.
-
- Meanwhile, place sesame seed in a 10- to 12-inch frying pan over medium
- heat. Shake often or stir until seeds are golden, about 7 minutes.
-
- Pour into a large bowl. Add apricots, raisins, coconut, almonds, dry milk,
- and wheat germ; mix well. Mix hot oats into dried fruit mixture.
-
- Butter the hot backing pan; set aside.
-
- In the frying pan, combine corn syrup and sugar; bring to a rolling boil
- over medium high heat and quickly stir in the peanut butter, orange
- extract, and orange peel.
-
- At once, pour over the oatmeal mixture and mix well. Quickly spread in
- buttered pan an press into an even layer. Then cover and chill until firm,
- at least 4 hours or until next day.
-
- Cut into bars about 1 1/4 by 2 1/2 inches.
-
- Combine chocolate chips and paraffin in to top of a double boiler. Place
- over simmering water until melted; stir often. Turn heat to low.
-
- Using tongs, dip 1 bar at a time into chocolate, hold over pan until it
- stops dripping (with paraffin, the coating firms very quickly), then place
- on wire racks set above waxed paper.
-
- When firm and cool (bars with butter in the chocolate coating may need to
- be chilled), serve bars, or wrap individually in foil. Store in the
- refrigerator up to 4 weeks; freeze to store longer. Makes about 4 dozen
- bars, about 1 ounce each.
-
- Per piece: 188 cal.; 4.4 g protein; 29 g carbo.; 9.8 g fat; 0.6 mg chol.;
- 40 mg sodium.
-
- ===========================================================================
-
- Orienteering (Matt Mahoney mvm@epg.harris.com) updated
-
- Orienteering is called the "thinking sport" because it involves two skills
- -- running and map reading. The object is to run to a series of markers in
- the woods, along any route you want. The hard part is finding the markers
- with the aid of a map and a compass.
-
- There are 6 courses to choose from, called White, Yellow, Orange, Green,
- Red and Blue. This has nothing to do with the colors of the markers (which
- are orange and white and look like lanterns hanging from trees). It has to
- do with level of difficulty, like belts in karate. The white course is the
- easiest, about a mile, with the markers clearly visible from roads or
- trails. Blue is the hardest, about 4-5 miles, and involves mostly
- cross-country running with emphasis on successful navigation using terrain
- features. Each marker has a 2-letter code (to distinguish it from markers
- on other trails) which you match up with a code sheet that you carry with
- your map. There, you stamp your card in the appropriate numbered spot. Each
- stamp produced a distinct pattern of holes in the card.
-
- (Alan Glendinning abg@Centric.com) There is an Orienteering newsletter on
- the net. Send subscription requests to
- orienteering-request@graphics.cornell.edu. Here in the SF Bay Area, we have
- an additional, local news group: baoc-request@ai.sri.com.
-
- ===========================================================================
- Predicting times (10k-marathon) (Tim Tarmstro@metz.une.oz.au)
-
- In `Training Distance Runners' Coe and Martin come up with three sets of
- formulas for determining equivalent race performances over several
- distances when the performance for one distance is known. They have three
- tables to counter problems of athlete specificity.
-
- For long distance specialists (i.e 10k/15km) : Marathon = 4.76Y : 10k = Y
- : 5k = 0.48Y
- : 3k = 0.28Y
- : 1.5k = 0.13Y
-
- For 3k/5k runners : 10k = 2.1Y
- : 5k = Y
- : 3k = 0.58Y
- : 1.5k = 0.27Y
- : 800m = 0.13Y
- : 400m = 0.06Y
-
-
- For `real' middle distance: 5k = 3.63Y
- : 3k = 2.15Y
- : 1.5k = Y
- : 800m = 0.48Y
- : 400m = 0.22Y
-
- ===========================================================================
-
- Running Clubs & Organizations (John Berkery berkery@crdgw2.crd.ge.com)
-
- ARFA - American Running and Fitness Association 9310 Old Georgetown Rd
- Bathesda MD 20814
- 301-897-0917
-
- ARRA - Association of Road Racing Athletes (professionals) 807 Paulsen Bldg
- Spokane WA 99201
- 509-838-8784
-
- Clydesdale Runners Association (heavyweights) 1809 Gold Mine Rd
- Brookville Md 20833
- 310-774-2493
-
- NWAA - National Wheel Chair Athletic Association 3617 Betty Dr, suite S
- Colorado Springs CO 80907
- 719-597-8330
-
- RRCA - Road Runners Clubs of America
- 629 S. Washington St
- Alexandria VA 22314
- 703-768-0545
-
- Special Olympics (handicapped)
- 1350 New York Ave, NW, suite 500
- Washington DC 20005
- 202-628-3630
-
- TAC - The Athletics Congress of the USA (IAAF member) 1 Hoosier Dome, suite 140
- Indianapolis IN 46225
- 317-261-0500
-
- USABA - U.S. Association for Blind Athletes 33 N. Institute St
- Brown Hall, suite 015
- Colorado Springs CO 80903
- 719-630-0422
-
- USCAA - U.S. Corporate Athletics Association (company teams) 2408 Paseo Noche
- Camarillo CA 93010
- 805-987-8052
-
- USCPAA - U.S. Cerebral Palsy Athletic Association 34518 Warren Rd, suite 264
- Westland MI 48185
- 313-425-8961
-
- USOC - U.S. Olympic Committee
- 1750 E. Boulder St
- Colorado Springs CO 80909-5760
- 719-632-5551
-
- Achilles Track Club (handicapped)
- c/o New York RRC
- 9 East 89th St
- New York NY 10128
- 212-860-4455
-
- Other running organizations
- Many road runners clubs are not affiliated with RRCA. Information about
- these independent clubs may be found at local sporting goods stores or at
- athletic shoe stores. Local YMCA/YWCA organizations may also be able to
- supply a contact address or phone number.
-
-
- Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.
- Ozzie Gontang <downtech@cerfnet.com>
- Downing & Associates
- 11300 Sorrento Valley Rd. Ste 103
- San Diego, CA 92121
- ph.619-458-1101 fax 619-452-3708
-
-
- Archive-name: running-faq/part6
- Last-modified: 15 November 1994
- Posting-Frequency: Monthly
-
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-
- Shoes (Thomas Page page@ficus.cs.ucla.edu)
-
- Here is a summary of shoe reviews gleaned from various places including
- manufacturers' adds, Road Runner Sports catalog, Runner`s World, Running
- Times, rec.running postings, and my own experience. I will post and update
- occasionally.
-
- Guide to Categories
- -------------------
- BASICS: A good quality shoe for a beginning through mid-mileage runner.
-
- LIGHTWEIGHT TRAINER/RACER: Typically under 10 ounces. Very light, very
- fast, biomechanically gifted runners can wear these shoes as daily
- trainers. Other runners may get away with using these as a second pair for
- racing in or for track workouts. These shoes usually have blown rubber
- soles for light weight so they wear out too quickly for an everyday
- training shoe for most of us.
-
- MC: (Motion Control) Made for over-pronators and heavier runners.
-
- STABILITY: For neutral runners and mild over-pronators. Offers some
- resistance to pronation and supination.
-
- RACING FLAT: Most people should race in their regular trainers or
- lightweight trainers. For people who can get away with it, racing flats
- might buy them a few seconds in a 10k. If that is the difference between
- 1st and 2nd, it is probably worth it. If it is the difference between 38:04
- and 38:14 it is probably not worth the risk of injury. These shoes have
- very little stability, cushioning, or durability, but they tend to weigh
- 2-4 oz. less than a lightweight trainer.
-
- Construction
- ------------
- If you remove the insole, you can tell the type of construction. Slip
- Lasted shoes have a sewn seam running the length of the shoe. Board lasted
- shoes have a cardboard board running the length of the shoe. Combination
- lasted shoes have cardboard in the rear half, and a seam up the front half.
- Slip lasted shoes are the most flexible. Board lasted shoes are the most
- stable and least flexible. Combination lasted shoes attempt to compromise
- giving a flexible forefoot and a stable rear. Orthotics wearers should
- stick to board or combination lasted shoes. True over-supinators (these are
- rare) should use flexible slip lasted shoes. Another way to look at it: if
- you have a rigid foot (tends to be high arched feet), favor flexible (slip
- laste) shoes. If you have a floppy foot (tends to have flatter feet and
- overpronate), favor combination or board construction.
-
- Last
- ----
- The last is the form the shoe is made on. Lasts vary from curved, to
- semi-curved, to straight. Straight lasts are generally the most stable
- shoes, while curved lasted shoes tend to be the most flexible. You just
- have to see what last from what manufacturer fits your foot.
-
- Stores
- ------
- A good running shoe store is essential. The sales people at the sporting
- goods chain stores and the mall shoe stores just don't know their products
- or how to fit runners, despite advertising to the contrary. A real runner's
- store should allow you to run in the shoe on the sidewalk outside the
- store, or at least on a tread mill in the store and watch you run. They
- should be able to tell you if you over-pronate in a particular shoe. The
- advice you get in a good store is worth the price (full retail) you pay.
-
- Don't be a jerk and pick the brains of a good running shoe store salesman
- and then buy at a discount place. If you value their advice, buy a pair of
- shoes from the specialty running store so they will still be in business
- the next time you need them. Then, if you liked the pair you bought, go
- ahead and buy it from a discount store or mail order place in the future;
- you don't owe the store your business forever. Remember though, that models
- change, and you will want to go back to the good store every few years.
-
- Notes:
- ------
- Weight is typically listed for mens' size 9 as quoted by manufacturer and
- found either in Runners World, Running Times, or Road Runner Sports
- catalog. Different sources differ in the weight they report, often by as
- much as an ounce. I have not been consistent about which source I use here
- so you may find a discrepancy with a source you consult.
-
- M.C. stands for Motion Control (i.e. a shoe for over-pronators).
-
- ************** SHOE REVIEWS *************
-
-
- Under construction
-
-
-
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-
- Stretching (Shane P Esau spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca) (Rocky Essex
- rocky@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu)
-
- STRETCHING EXERCISES by Shane Esau, Edited by Rocky Essex
-
- OVERVIEW
-
- When stretching, stretch the muscle until your feel a slight tightness,
- then hold for 20-30 seconds. Repeat, this time stretching the muscle a
- little more. Thus it should take 1-1.5 minutes/stretch (a total of 15-20
- minutes)
-
- CHEST
-
- Place your hand on the wall, with the front of your elbow as well on the
- wall Now turn so that you can feel a stretch in your chest - try to keep
- your elbow on the wall - your hand should be shoulder height or higheer.
-
- HAMSTRING
-
- Stretch your hamstrings by lying on your back, with 1 knee bent. Then bring
- your other leg up to vertical, keeping your knee straight and your back
- against the floor. This is a much better stretch for your hamstrings than
- is the bent over stretch.
-
- QUADS
-
- Stand erect, grab one leg and pull your foot towards your but. Remember to
- keep your stomach tight - don't let your stomach relax - do this for both
- legs.
-
- Another quad stretch is to sit on your feet and bend (lean your upper
- torso) backwards, keeping your knees on the ground.
-
- ILLIOTIBIAL BAND (I.T. Band)
-
- Stand erect with your feet shoulder width apart. Now take your left leg and
- put it behind your right leg and put your left foot about 12" to the right
- of your right foot. Now lean your torso so that is upright again (take your
- right hand and run it down your right leg until your feel the stretch).
- Repeat with the other leg.
-
- FREQUENCY
-
- Try to stretch 1/2 - 1 hour/day - this includes pre-training stretching,
- but at least 1 stretching session/day that is outside of training.
-
- TRICEPS
-
- Take your left hand, and put it behind your head, palm facing the same way
- as your face. Now, slide your hand down your spine, until you feel a
- stretch. Now take your right hand and grab your left elbow, and pull your
- left elbow towards your right hip (over and down). This should stretch the
- tricep.
-
- LATS
-
- First, sit on your feet, with your arms outstretched in front of you. Now,
- place your left hand on top of your right hand. Now, lean back and twist
- your body towards your right side (you want to try to put your right armpit
- on the ground). If this is not stretching, move your hands further out in
- front of you.
-
- UPPER BACK
-
- This is for your upper back and is easy to do - take your left elbow in
- your right hand, and pull it across the front of your chest - try pulling
- your left elbow all the way over to your right pec muscle - it may be
- easier if your put your left forearm in your right armpit.
-
- BICYCLE SITUP
-
- Lie on your back, and put your legs in the crunch position (90 deg bend in
- your legs and your hips) Now, pedal your legs from bent to almost straight,
- and at the same time bend at the waist bringing your elbows to your knees.
- It is a killer (mainly because of the co-ordination that it takes)
-
- It is like a leg lift on the starting part, then changes to a crunch situp
- from that point on. Fingers interlaced behind head and pedal while you are
- crunching.
-
- GLUTEOUS MAXIMUS --THE BUTT
-
- Sit down with your legs out in front of you. Now bend your left leg and put
- your left foot on the outside of your right leg, between your right cheek
- and your right knee- pull your left foot as close to your right cheek as
- possible. Now, pull your left knee in towards your chest. If you don't feel
- much, grab your left shin, and give your left leg a little twist (ie pull
- your shin closer to your chest). Your should feel this. Another one is to
- lie on your back, put both feet in the air, then bend your left leg again,
- but this time bring your left shin in front of your roght quad. Now pull
- your right leg towards your chest - you should feel this in your buttocks.
- If you don't, push your left knee away from your chest, while maintaining
- the distance between your right leg and your chest.
-
- ANKLES (Mike Dotseth miked@col.hp.com)
-
- Stand with feet in normal standing position. Place a hand on a wall or a
- railing for a little balance. Now, 'roll' your feet around on their 'outer
- edges'. Repeat 50 times. ('Rolling on the outer edges' means to tilt your
- feet as far outward and inward (supination and pronationtween rock forward
- on your the balls of your feet and back on your heels.) The major benefit
- is the stretching and strengthening on the muscles and tendons which keep
- your foot stable as you run.
-
- A Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about stretching and flexibility by
- Brad Appleton can be found on:
-
- Ftp-site: cs.huji.ac.il:/pub/doc/faq/rec/martial.arts
- WWW-URL: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/papers/rma/stretching_toc.html
-
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- Sweat (Sam Henry shenry@cs.rice.edu)
-
- Question: I sweat more than I can replace during a long run, ride, or
- triathlon. What can I do about it?
-
- It's hard to say what to do without knowing what you do now. None of us can
- replace as much as we lose while we are losing it. The trick is to keep
- from going into deficit.
-
- Do you hydrate yourself every day, all day long? Min 2 qts/day.
-
- Do you hydrate yourself extra before the ride (like a qt an hour for 2 hrs
- or so before the start).
-
- Do you use sports drinks to help with trace element losses? I use Exceed at
- 25% solution for the 1st half of long rides, orange juice at 25% for med
- rides, and plain water for short rides.
-
- What is your consumption rate during rides? I start drinking 30 mins into
- the ride and drink a qt an hour whether I am thirsty or not. If you are
- thirsty, it is probably getting pretty close to too late.
-
- Do you eat while you ride? Things like bananas, oranges, and pears provide
- fuel *and* coolant, along with some nifty minerals and such that your body
- needs to make the cooling system work right. I eat fig newtons and such
- right as I start and eat every 20-30 mins after the first hour. Pears,
- particularly, are an easy-to-eat thirst slacker.
-
- What kind of hydration regimen do you use *afterwards*? I immediately start
- drinking at the end of a ride, starting with a quart of water followed by a
- quart of full-strength sports drink (Exceed for me). I also find something
- to eat that is high in complex carbohydrates. All this within the *first
- hour* after the workout. The eating and drinking are intertwined. Then I
- drink another quart of something that sounds appealing. Then I go back to
- my drinking all day long to get my "normal" two quarts.
-
- I might have thought I would slosh, but I never have. And most of my riding
- is done at temps above 80 degs and in high humidity. If you are urinating
- infrequently and the urine is a dark color, you are underhydrated, whether
- you have exercised or not. No matter how much you sweat.
-
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-
- Weather ("The Running Book" By the Editors of Consumer Guide)
-
- COLD-WEATHER
-
- Cold weather does not present any serious problems for you, especially if
- you are in reasonably good condition. If you have heart problems, consult a
- doctor first. High wind-chill factors are the greatest threats to you in
- cold weather, since you can suffer frostbite if you are not adequately
- protected from the wind. You must remember that when you run, your own
- motion against the wind increases the windchill factor and increases the
- risk of frostbite. Be sure all normally exposed areas of skin are covered:
- head, face, ears, and hands. The important thing to remember is that you
- must dress in layers in order to create your own insulation.
-
- When you run in cold weather, beware of ice on the road, and remember to
- taper off your run slowly so you will not catch a chill. When you arrive
- home, change out of your damp, sweaty clothes right away.
-
- HOT-WEATHER
-
- When you run in hot weather, your blood pressure can drop dangerously or
- you could suffer heat exhaustion. If you start feeling dizzy and dehydrated
- while jogging and your pulse and breathing grow very rpid, you could very
- well be on your way to heat exhaustion. Stop exercising immediately. Get
- out of the sun, drink fluids (tepid, not cold), and rest.
-
- Running in heat also slows down the blood circulation, placing a greater
- burden on your heart. And of course, you will sweat a lot more so your body
- loses more water that usual. To replace it, drink a full glass of water
- before you start and one every 15 or 20 minutes during your run. A few
- pinches of salt dissolved in the water will help. But if your stomach is
- empty, omit the salt or it will probably cause stomach cramps.
-
- An important thing to remember about heat is that it takes your body about
- two weeks to adjust.
-
- WIND
-
- If you run in a strong wind, you are going to be expending six percent more
- oxygen that you would under ordinary condtitions. So, if you are running in
- a stiff breeze slow down and you will get the same benefits as you would
- from a faster run. When you set out on a windy day, start with the wind in
- front of you at the beginning of your workout; then at the end, when you
- are more tired, you will have it at your back, helping to push you along.
-
- RAIN
-
- Rain need not be a deterrent unless you're afraid of melting, but you will
- need some protection. Wear waterproof outer clothes, of course, and as many
- layers as you need to keep warm. Don't linger in them after the run but get
- into dry things as soon as you get home.
-
- HIGH ALTITUDES
-
- High altitudes are a source of special problems. When you get to 5000 feet
- above sea level and beyond, it takes a lot more time for oxygen to be
- absorbed into your blood and travel throughout your body. So your heart has
- to work a lot harder at its job. Plan on taking at least four to six weeks
- to get adjusted to a new high altitude, and adapt your jogging routine
- accordingly. Most runners recommend cutting your program by about 50% at
- the beginning.
-
- Running on cold, rainy days (Brendan Leitch bleitch@bcarh407.bnr.ca)
-
- TWO RULES:
- 1) Dress in layers
- 2) Keep DRY, this is done by putting the wicking layers closest to the SKIN.
-
- What works for us: (us = the running club I belong to)
-
- Top: 1st LIFA or some similar 'wicking' material against skin 2nd turtle
- neck or long sleeve t-shirt(repeat if needed) 3rd Shell jacket, Goretex is
- best, but any layered Nylon one will do the job
-
- Bottom: 1st LIFA or some similar 'wicking' material against skin 2nd long tights
- 3rd wind pants(preferably goretex again, but nylon will do)
-
- Head: 1st Bella Clava(a thin hat that goes around head like old fashioned
- ski mask)
- 2nd Your shell jacket hat over the Bella-Clava
-
- Hands: 1st light thin wicking material gloves 2nd heavier glove
-
- Feet: your normal socks/shoes - just make sure your bottom clothes cover
- ankles etc.
-
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-
- QUESTIONS
-
- (1) Is it better to run in the morning or evening? "The Running Book" By
- the Editors of Consumer Guide
-
- It's' important to establish a routine for yourself, geared to your own
- disposition and living habits. Some runners prefer to run early in the
- morning, some even before daybreak. They seem to like the solitude
- available at that hour, when the streets are still empty of traffic and
- people.
-
- Some runners are shrewd, enough to kill two birds with one stone. They get
- their exercise in while "commuting" to work. Issues to consider: Are
- showers available at work? How far is it to work? What kind of work do you
- do? Do you work outside or inside?
-
- People who do their running in the morning say that it sets them up for the
- day. They are more alert and less likely to become upset by the pressures
- and frustrations of their work, and at the end of the day they fell less
- fatigued.
-
- Other runners, however, wait until they have left their work, put their
- jobs behind them, and headed home. A run at this time provides a nice
- transition for them, a time to work off some of the tensions that may have
- built during the day so that they don't carry them into family life. ...you
- should end your run at least an hour before you retire. Otherwise you may
- find it difficult to fall asleep.
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- (2) Should I run when I have a cold/fever? "The Running Book" By the
- Editors of Consumer Guide
-
- Recommended schedules should be followed as faithfully as possible, but not
- blindly. There are certain times when you have no business running. If, for
- example, you have the flu, a cold, or some other ailment, don't overexert
- yourself and possibly harm your body by trying to run. If you feel a cold
- coming on, however, running may help you get rid of it. But if you try this
- cure, follow Dr. Kostrubala's recommendations. He suggests that you dress
- warmly, take two aspirin in a glass of milk, and then go out for a run. Jog
- slowly and see how you feel. Continue jogging until your body grows warm,
- even hot, Then try to keep your temperature at that level.
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- (3) How often should I run? "The Running Book" By the Editors of Consumer
- Guide
-
- Most running programs, ask you to run three times a week as a minimum
- requirement. This helps reinforce the habit of running, but its main
- purpose is to develop cardiovascular conditioning through frequent running.
- But more is not necessarily better. Experts in physical fitness tend to
- agree that running days should alternate with days of rest, since rest for
- the body is as much a part of developing fitness as exercise.
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- (4) Which of the 8 lanes on a US track is actually the '1/4 mile' one?
-
- (Lori Moffitt lcm@med.unc.edu) writes: The long and short of it, pun
- intended, is that US 1/4 mile tracks are typically 400 meter tracks, and
- the runner needs to compensate for the difference by running a few yards
- extra, about 10 yards. The 400 meter distance seemed to be measured 12''
- from the inside curb of the track. Opinions vary about this and the
- compensation distance.
-
- (Art Overholser overhoka@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) A perfect 400-m track,
- measured 12" from the inside curb as specified by TAC, is 437.4 US yards
- long, or 7'8'' shy of 440 yards. So you only need to run 8 feet (not 10
- yards) extra to get the 1/4 mi. To get one mile out of 4 laps you have to
- add about 10 yards.
-
- If his figures are correct, to change this lap to a quarter mile, move out
- an additional 15 inches when going around the bends. (Sherwood Botsford
- sherwood@space.ualberta.ca)
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- (5) I have started running after having my baby and I am curious to know if
- any one has some stomach exercises?
-
- If you had your baby less than 6 weeks ago, it is likely that your uterus
- hasn't returned to its normal size, and this could cause the cramps.
- Remember, too, that your stomach muscles separated during pregnancy and it
- takes time for them to meld together again.
-
- The important thing to remember when returning to running after a layoff is
- to ease back into running, paying scrupulous attention to how it feels. The
- old adage, "listen to your body," applies here. If your stomach is
- cramping, slow down, ease up.
-
- STRETCHES (Paulette Leeper paulette.leeper@daytonOH.NCR.COM) To stretch
- your abdominals, lay on your back with your knees bent and the soles of
- your feet on the floor. Let your knees drop to one side, as you lay your
- arms toward the other...hold for about 30 seconds and gently switch sides.
- From this same position, you can begin to strengthen your abdominals by
- pressing your lower back toward the floor...holding it for increasing
- increments of time. Your ability to hold your lower back to the floor will
- give you a good sense of what kind of shape your abdominals are in at this
- time.
-
- Many of the abdominal exercises recommended during pregnancy are good to
- begin with post-partum. One of my favorites is to sit up with knees bent
- and do a sort of "reverse sit-up." Instead of coming up from the floor,
- move your torso toward the floor with your arms stretched out in front of
- you.
-
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-
-
- Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.
- Ozzie Gontang <downtech@cerfnet.com>
- Downing & Associates
- 11300 Sorrento Valley Rd. Ste 103
- San Diego, CA 92121
- ph.619-458-1101 fax 619-452-3708
-
-
-